Weapons that pose a danger to human life and health require special attention. The owner of a traumatic weapon must have certain knowledge and skills. In this regard, the acquisition of self-defense weapons requires registration of certain permitting documents.
So that without problems obtain a license for a traumatic weapon You must follow the instructions and adhere to the rules.
Let's start with information about who can obtain permission to purchase, store and carry self-defense weapons:
The right to acquire civil rights firearms citizens of the Russian Federation who have reached the age of 21 years have limited damage,
with some exceptions, persons over 18 years of age, according to Article 13 of the Federal Law on Weapons .
Refused to purchase trauma equipment will be citizens of the Russian Federation:
- Registered with a drug treatment and psychoneurological dispensary;
- Having a criminal record;
- Having no permanent place of residence;
- Unable to provide the necessary conditions for storing weapons;
- Without honey conclusion indicating mental health;
- Those who committed two administrative offenses during the year, encroaching on public order and public safety (such as drinking alcoholic beverages in public place and loud music after 23:00);
- Deprived of the right to purchase weapons by court decision.
- mental disorders severe form;
- drug addiction;
- alcoholism;
- epilepsy;
- poor vision;
- absence of fingers.
Having found out the basic amendments for the purchase of self-defense weapons, let’s move on to the instructions.
How to obtain a permit for a traumatic weapon
The first step is to collect the necessary documents
1. To serve applications for purchasing a license For traumatic weapons, you must visit a clinic and obtain a medical certificate form 046-1.
It is worth noting that the certificate is paid and is issued on the basis of other documents that must be issued by neurological and psychoneurological dispensaries.
The validity of a medical certificate upon initial application is 6 months.
Detailed rules for obtaining it were described in the article
*In some cases, a condition for obtaining a certificate may be the presence of a military ID.
**For current employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Defense, the GUIN, the FSB, the prosecutor's office and other paramilitary organizations, instead of a certificate of form 046-1, an extract from the order of actual service, as well as a copy of the substitute card for weapons, is required.
***Securities of the 6th category require copies of a permit to carry weapons and a certificate with a mark on the assignment of a qualification category.
2. Then you need to contact to the training center, in which you need to pass a test for knowledge of weapons laws, rules of their operation and first aid. You are given two attempts to pass the test, but you will have to pay for each of them.
We previously discussed where and how gun safety courses are held in the article.
Important: Training centers must have a training license. In order to verify the legitimacy of the organization, you can contact the Department of Internal Affairs. They usually recommend specific centers whose certificate will definitely be accepted in the future.
*This paragraph applies to those who receive a license for the first time. This rule does not apply to current employees and pensioners of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Ministry of Defense. Based on the results of the test, a certificate is issued, which must be submitted to the police department.
To pass the test successfully It is necessary to familiarize yourself with the following laws:
Federal Law of the Russian Federation “On Weapons” ;
Rules for safe handling of weapons;
Criminal Code of the Russian Federation(Articles 37-39, 222 and 224);
Code of the Russian Federation about administrative offenses X .
3. Checking weapon storage conditions
Having received a certificate of successful completion of the test, you must visit the local inspector He must confirm that you have no criminal record for administrative violations, and also check whether you have conditions for storing weapons. This includes a safe.
Requirements for a gun safe:
- Must be a metal cabinet or box, closed with two locks, with a wall thickness of at least 2 mm;
- Accompanied by a second safe or metal box for cartridges and gunpowder, closed with two locks, with a wall thickness of at least 3 mm, or include a compartment for cartridges and gunpowder with a wall thickness of at least 3 mm, locked with a separate lock.
The presented safes for pistols meet all the requirements of the Ministry of Internal Affairs for the storage of military, civilian and service weapons.
A selection of gun safes for storing pistols:
A comprehensive version for three guns with a height of up to 1380 mm and ammunition for them.
The capacity of this safe allows you to store a pistol along with a shotgun. The door is on internal hinges, has a box-like design and is reinforced with a false panel. It is locked with two certified key locks - class II.
Inside there is a lockable cartridge compartment, two removable shelves and convenient roller holders for three barrels.
Behind the trays there is a secret compartment, locked with a highly secret key lock.
All can be viewed in our .
4. Next stage.
Further let's go todepartment of licensing and permitting work
, also called LRO.
It is located under the control of the federal military service -Russian National Guard at the place of residence.
Package of documents in LRO
:
- Medical certificate form 046-1,
- Completed application form. It can be obtained from the licensing department or ;
- Passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation (Including copies of the page with photo and registration mark);
- 4 photographs measuring 3 × 4 cm;
- Certificate of completion of courses on safe carrying, storage and use of weapons;
- Report from the district police officer on the proper conditions for storing weapons.
You can also apply for a permit for a traumatic weapon through
Public services .After submitting the documents to the LRO, you will receive a receipt forpayment of state tax
(you can pay the fee at the bank);
Once all the conditions established by law have been met, you will be issued a license to purchase, store and carry self-defense weapons.
*Registration of the document usually takes at least a month. If you are denied it, you can appeal the decision.
The permit to purchase a traumatic weapon must contain your photo indicating your last name, first name and patronymic, place of registration, signature of the head of the Department of Internal Affairs and the date of issue of the document.
Sample permit for the acquisition, storage and carrying of self-defense weapons LOP
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5.
Purchasing traumatic weapons
Having a license in hand, we go to .
The documents required to purchase weapons were discussed in the article .
*For traumatic weapons, it is necessary to exclude permits from the list relating to hunting weapons.
Consider popular models of traumatic weapons
Evolution of the T10 model. The Grand Power T12 traumatic pistol created by the Slovak designer Jaroslav Kuracina based on the Grand Power K100 combat pistol.
It is possible to install a removable front sight and change the rear panels of the handle.
The pistol is equipped with a universal rail [ Picatinny- rail-type bracket used on different types small arms to ensure versatility in mounting sights. Picatinny], onto which you can attach all kinds of accessories.
Characteristics:
Caliber: 10×28;
Barrel length, mm: 100;
Trigger: SA/DA (single/double action);
Magazine capacity: up to 17 rounds. (Civilian version 10 rounds)
An excellent example of a short-barreled weapon.
The pistol is equipped with a rail tide [ Weaver- a weapon strap for attaching special optical sighting devices. Weaver]. which allows you to mount a laser laser or tactical flashlight.
The sight rear sight is mounted on the bolt in a transverse groove like [ Dovetail- mount for sighting optical devices on weapons. Dovetail].
Characteristics :
Caliber: 10x28;
Barrel length, mm: 112;
Trigger: SA/DA (single/double action);
Magazine capacity: 10.
The traumatic pistol is made on the basis of the Yarygin pistol.
Characteristics:
Caliber: .45 Rubber;
Barrel length, mm: 112;
Fire mode: single;
Fuse type – double-sided, flag type;
All
Buy good weapon by the beginning of the 2020 season - a paramount task for the hunter. The assortment in our stores is quite wide. It is possible to buy a smooth-bore and rifled gun, from a Russian manufacturer or a foreign company, mass-produced or handmade. But it is possible to obtain the right to own your own weapon only with a license, and cartridges will not be sold unless a permit (RoHa) is issued. To collect permits, you must obtain a hunting license. In order not to find yourself unarmed by the beginning of the hunting season, you will have to take care of everything in advance, since the registration process may take a long time.
Algorithm of necessary actions (relevant in 2020)
- Get a hunting license;
- Prepare a place to store weapons and ammunition;
- Undergo training to learn the rules of safe handling of weapons and acquire skills in safe handling of weapons (for those who are applying for a license for the first time);
- Study and pass the Okhotminimum;
- Obtain a license to purchase hunting smooth-bore or pneumatic weapons, as well as ammunition for them;
- Buy a hunting weapon and register it with the National Guard;
- Obtain permission to store and carry hunting weapons.
After this, you can already buy more cartridges, a knife and other things the hunter needs. Obtain a permit for the extraction of hunting resources and a permit (for hunting in designated areas). Find fun company and go to the opening.
Advice. Register on the State Services website and confirm your identity to use all services. This will save you a lot of time.
Getting a hunter's ticket in 2020
A hunting license is a uniform state document that confirms a citizen’s right to hunt throughout the country. You cannot get a gun license without a hunter's license. It is completed after submitting an application of the established form to the authorities authorized to solve problems in your region in the field of ecology and environmental management. You can submit an application through the State Services website or in person.
In addition to the application itself, you must provide:
- copy of passport;
- color or black and white photo 30×40 mm (1 pc.)
After registering with State Services and selecting a service, it may turn out that it is impossible to apply for a hunting license electronically in your city. Then you'll have to go yourself.
The authorities have 5 working days to make a decision on issuing or refusing to issue a hunter's ticket. The following facts may serve as grounds for a negative decision for the applicant:
- the applicant is a minor or incapacitated by a court;
- reporting false (erroneous) or incomplete data;
- the application was submitted before the end of the deprivation, if the person was previously deprived of the right to hunt;
- outstanding/unexpunged conviction for a crime committed intentionally.
A 2020 hunting license is provided free of charge. Its action is not limited by time. To receive the completed document, you must personally appear at the appointed place and time and present your passport.
We buy a safe
Storage conditions civilian weapons governed by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation “On measures to regulate the circulation of civilian and service weapons and ammunition on the territory of the Russian Federation” No. 814 of July 21, 1998 (as amended on May 17, 2017).
Ordinary citizens of the Russian Federation, that is, you and me, must store weapons and ammunition at their place of residence in compliance with conditions that ensure their safety, security of storage and exclude access to them by unauthorized persons, in locked safes, safe cabinets or metal cabinets for storing weapons, boxes made of high-strength materials or in wooden boxes lined with iron.
At the same time, local internal affairs bodies have the right to check the storage conditions of weapons registered by them.
Please note that there are no other requirements (bars on windows, alarms, a mandatory second lock, screwing the safe to the wall).
But there is GOST R 56367-2015 “Safes and metal cabinets for storing civilian weapons and ammunition. Are common technical specifications" Adopted on January 25, 2017, effective from January 1, 2019
According to GOST, a gun safe weighing less than 100 kg must have anchor holes for fastening. The safe must have a bolt system installed that can lock the door in at least three directions. The safe must be equipped with a lockable compartment for storing cartridges.
Conclusions - take care of the safe to create conditions for safe storage and completely prevent unauthorized access to your weapons. If it's easy, screw it to the wall. You will be calmer.
We undergo training - we gain skills in safe handling of weapons
According to the Law “On Weapons”, Article 13, a Russian citizen purchasing a hunting smoothbore weapon for the first time is required to undergo training to learn the rules for safe handling of weapons and acquire the necessary skills.
Training is provided by certified training centers. Theory + passing the exam + practical shooting. Everything seems simple.
Cost ~ 4 – 5 thousand rubles.
Registration of a license to purchase hunting weapons
Is in charge of issuing licenses for guns for hunting, storage and transportation permits federal Service troops of the Russian National Guard. Now the most convenient way to submit an application is through the State Services website.
Name of the service on State Services: License to purchase hunting smooth-bore or pneumatic weapons, as well as ammunition for them
You will need:
- application (filled out electronically);
- passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation and a photocopy;
- photographs 3x4 (2 pcs.);
- certificate for weapons in form No. 002-О/у along with extracts from drug and psychoneurological dispensaries received at the place of permanent registration, you will need to undergo a vision test (have glasses, if you wear them, or lenses), in addition to the above, you will need to obtain a certificate having passed tests for the absence of narcotic and psychotropic substances and their metabolites
- document confirming the passed hunting minimum
- hunting license of a unified federal standard
Possible reasons for refusal:
- do not have a permanent place of residence (registration);
- have not reached 18 years of age;
- have an unexpunged or outstanding conviction for a crime committed intentionally;
- have repeatedly committed an administrative offense within a year that infringes on public order and public safety or the established management procedure, or an administrative offense in the field of illicit trafficking in narcotic drugs, psychotropic substances or their analogues and consumption without a doctor’s prescription;
- deprived by a court decision of the right to purchase weapons;
- are registered with health care institutions for mental illness, alcoholism or drug addiction.
To obtain a license, you need to go to the National Guard licensing and permitting center and bring the original documents specified in the application.
The period for consideration of the application after verification of documents is no more than 30 days. During the reconciliation with the National Guard, you will be given details for paying the state duty - in 2020 its amount is 2,000 rubles.
Having a state license in hand, a novice hunter has the right to purchase a smooth-bore firearm for hunting. Thanks to your technical specifications, this type of weapon is suitable for various types hunting.
A rifled hunting rifle, unlike a smoothbore one, has protrusions inside the barrel - twisted rifling. Rifled has higher accuracy. The bullet twists and flies much further than one fired from a smooth barrel. Thus, a rifled gun against a large animal provides the ability to shoot at 500 meters. A beginner will not be able to obtain a license for it. It is possible to purchase a rifle if hunting is a profession, therefore, when providing documents for a hunting rifle/combined weapon, you must attach a copy of the order of official appointment.
An amateur hunter can obtain the coveted permit for a rifled gun if he has five years of legal experience in owning a gun at the time of submitting the package of documents. The decision to grant a license for hunting smooth-bore/rifled weapons is made by the authorities in month period from the time of application. The citizen pays a license fee (smooth-bore - 100 rubles per unit, rifled - 200 rubles, 2017).
You have received your license, now you can think about buying and storing a gun
The license is valid for six months from the date of issue. During this period, it is necessary to acquire ownership of the weapon. You can buy it at specialty store or from a private person. The license is valid only upon presentation of a general passport. The number, system, and caliber of the gun are entered into the buyer’s hunting license. When purchasing a gun from a gun store, the seller must fill out a license and leave a third of it to the buyer.
If the seller is a private person, the license is filled out at the OLRR (licensing and permitting department) where it was obtained. This is how re-registration is carried out for a new buyer. Purchased hunting weapons (smooth-bore, combined, rifled) are registered with the regional LRRR within two weeks from the date of purchase. It is necessary to submit an application and attach the part of the license left by the gun store seller.
Permission to store and the right to carry a gun (ROKh)
To freely transport and carry a gun for hunting purposes, you will need to obtain a special permit. On State Services it is called “Permission to store and carry long-barreled sports firearms, long-barreled hunting firearms used for sports, sports pneumatic weapons with muzzle energy over 7.5 J and cartridges for them.”
Here is a set of documents that are required to be collected; you can submit them personally to the territorial department of the licensing and permitting service of the National Guard or through the state portal. services in 2020:
- application of the prescribed form (fill out on the website);
- passport of a citizen of the Russian Federation;
- photographs 3x4 (2 pcs.);
- a copy of the license with a mark of sale or with a mark confirming the transfer from the Ministry of Internal Affairs from another owner.
- a copy of the technical passport for the hunting rifle (if rifled, then the test shooting protocol).
The cost of the service is 500 rubles, the review period is 14 days.
Before the permit is issued, the owner does not have documents to own the weapon. During this period, the barrel should be placed in a safe and not moved anywhere. Finally, permission was received. Now you can go hunting with your own gun, transport it freely and buy ammunition for your gun.
Remember, the person who owns the weapon is responsible for the proper storage of the barrel and ammunition. The owner is responsible for the consequences arising from non-compliance with the rules for storing and operating weapons. The law prohibits the sale of hunting rifles or the transfer of guns to others unless permission from the authorities is obtained for such actions.
If they refuse to give you permission
If a weapons license is refused, the applicant must be given a written notification - a reasoned conclusion with a full indication of the norms of the legislation of the Russian Federation and the legal regulations of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation, the violation of which was the reason for making such a decision. Why can they refuse?:
- age under 18 years;
- provision of inaccurate data or an incomplete set of documents, for example, lack of a medical certificate in the established form, registration status in a psychoneurological or drug treatment clinic;
- there is no documentary evidence that the applicant has completed appropriate training;
- lack of permanent registration;
- there is an outstanding/unexpunged conviction for a crime committed intentionally;
- deprivation of the right to own a weapon by a court;
- repeated administrative offense within a year or a single offense related to narcotic and psychotropic drugs;
- lack of prescribed conditions for storing weapons.
If a citizen considers the refusal to be unjustified, then he has the opportunity to appeal this decision of the authorities in the court at his place of registration. You must have a refusal notice in hand. If they refuse to provide notification, contact the prosecutor's office. The court is provided with all certificates confirming your right to a license. For example, a certificate of removal of a criminal record from information center Department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, if the refusal is motivated precisely by this circumstance. As practice shows, obtaining a license in this case is not easy. The severity of the article probably influences it. Officials are reluctant to take responsibility and issue a permit to own a weapon to a person convicted of a serious crime, for example, robbery causing grievous bodily harm. Although legally this refusal is illegal.
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Comments
- Sergey
Helpful information. I will soon turn 18 years old and will finally be able to transfer from spectator to participant in the hunt. Otherwise, while hunting, my father only allows me to help in matters not related to weapons.
- Sasha
The material is well presented, but I live in Ukraine. Is there an article on your website about neighboring countries? I would be very grateful.
- SANYA
I HAVE LEARNED IN SMOOTHBORE WEAPONS AND COLLECTED DOCUMENTS TO APPLY TO BUY A GUN. I DID NOT SIGN THE PERMISSION. MOTIVATING THAT I HAVE BEEN DELIVERED MY DRIVING LICENSE FOR DRIVING IN A CONTROLLED WAY. ? IS IT CORRECT?
- Valera
In our country they hunt without permission, if only there was money. I was convinced by the example of good friends.
- Alexei
Can I get a permit if I was disabled as a child and walk on crutches?
- Alexander
Good afternoon. I registered a smoothbore gun at a temporary registration address in the Moscow region, and now I want to transfer it to a permanent registration address in Moscow. What is needed for this?
- Gennady
Hello! The question is, is it possible to have a homemade gun safe, or just buy it in a store?
- Stas
A license to purchase weapons is not issued to citizens of the Russian Federation:
3) having an unexpunged or unexpunged conviction for a crime committed intentionally, or having an expunged or expunged conviction for a grave or especially grave crime committed with the use of a weapon; - Marat Nurgaliev
Hello. I bought a gun but didn’t understand how to apply for government services. there are 3 options for individuals. :
Issuing a permit to a citizen of the Russian Federation to store and use short-barreled sporting firearms with a rifled barrel and ammunition for it at a shooting facility
Re-issuance of a permit issued to a citizen of the Russian Federation for the storage and use of short-barreled sporting firearms with a rifled barrel and cartridges for it at a shooting facility
Extension of a permit issued to a citizen of the Russian Federation for the storage and use of short-barreled sporting firearms with a rifled barrel and cartridges for it at a shooting facility
which one??? I did the first option when I applied for green paint
- Igor
HOW MUCH DOES THE TRAINING COST INCLUDING THE WEAPONS EXAM?
- Eugene
Good afternoon I received a certificate from narcology, form 454/u-06, in November 2016, and went to apply for a license in January 2017, the LRR inspector refused to accept my documents, arguing that some new form of certificate was in effect from 01/01/2017! Is refusal legal? Thank you in advance!
- Eugene
And another question to the LRR inspector says that the application for a license must be submitted on the government services website! I don’t understand, is it really impossible to write an application for a license from an LRR inspector?
- Dmitriy
From January 1, 2017, medical report forms N002-О/у and N003-О/у will come into effect.
No website has complete information on obtaining a purchase license. Even government services do not have updated information. - Sergey
Please tell me I need to take exams to purchase 2 barrels
- Denis
If there are fines for speeding, can they also refuse?
- Alexander
Hello! And if there is neither a military ID nor a mark in the passport about service. I'm 30, I haven't served or been drafted. Is it possible to get a weapons permit?
- Taisya
Please tell me, if my husband is rowdy, can he have a weapon at home...??
- a lion
Hello! If I overstayed my due date when moving from one city to another, and previously had a smooth barrel, can I get a license for a rifled one? At the same time, the period for a smooth period is more than 5 years and a year has passed since the moment of registration at the new place and payment of the fine for overstaying time, and how long can you overstay the maximum amount of time when moving..?
- Oleg
Good night!
Due to my youth, we were convicted of fighting in 2008, and deprived of it once in 2012.
So there are no options?
Thank you in advance for your answer. - Stas
I used to have a hunting license in 2000, I would like to get a new one, do I need to take the hunt at least again, and in general what documents are needed. (old hunting ticket in hand)
- Yuri
Hello, I want to buy a small gun, will they give me, as a beginner, a permit for small-caliber rifled weapons, or do I need 5 years with a smooth-bore weapon?
- Anatoly
Tell me please! What do you need to get permission to buy two more guns if you’ve already owned one for 2.5 years?
- Anatoly
If you don’t submit an application through government services, it will be accepted by the LRO upon the provision of documents specifically to them at the department???? . I brought a full package of documents to the LRO, he said you submitted your application through government services, I said no, it’s easier for me to bring them here than via the Internet, he sent me to submit through government services. but I accepted the documents exactly, but no one gave a coupon for accepting the documents, no deadlines, no time, no one said what and how, I don’t understand this mess. Has anyone encountered this????
- Alexander
Hello! I have had a hunting rifle for three years now. IN this moment I want to sell it and then buy another gun. Question 1. do I need to undergo a medical examination for a new gun and 2. if I sell the gun and while I’m looking for an option, will the 5 years of experience for rifled weapons be interrupted?
- Stanislav
I’ll tell you how I first received a license in 2017.
Many here quote from laws, but they can already be found in the public domain andour life.
To submit an application to the licensing department (through government services) we are askedprovide several documents:
– passport (this is understandable)
- honey conclusion (in fact, there are 3 different pieces of paper hidden here: a psychiatrist, a narcologist, androutine medical examination)
– a document on the preparation and testing of knowledge of weapons possession (everything is done in one place for3k)
– hunting license (to be done a week in advance through government services)
Here is such a small list and there seems to be nothing complicated in it.For myself, I have built the following order of receipt: submitting an application for a hunting ticket, receiving
medical certificates, purchase of a safe, weapons training.
1. Hunting license. The simplest point of all of the above. The application is submitted via
public services, fill out the form electronically, attach a photo, select a date
visits to obtain a finished hunting ticket (usually 1 week). Arriving at the appointed time
While purchasing a hunting ticket, they asked me for 2 photos. I said that I applied them to
application for public services in electronic form. They told me that they do not have a printer to
foresaw something similar (I even had photocopies of my passport prepared, but they didn’t
needed, they were able to print out the form). We get a ticket, no hunting minimums
You don’t need to submit anything, you don’t have to pay any fees, everything is absolutely free.
2. Medical report. You can get it in any clinic, be it free or
paid. Everyone writes about form 046, but it is outdated and now there is a different form, so no
try to search for something, download and print, all forms will be issued locally.
When contacting the clinic, simply say that you need a certificate for a weapon and they will immediately understand you (if
If you name the certificate form, some may be stupid and not understand what kind of certificate you are talking about
speech). Before the general examination, you will be sent to a psychiatrist and narcologist (without a referral, but
they will simply say “first go to a psychiatrist and a narcologist and then come to us for a medical examination”).
These specialists are not located in clinics, but in appropriate institutions - psychiatric
dispensary and drug treatment clinic. For a city with a population of 500k people, we have only
1 such establishment.
The hardest thing for me was the psychiatrist - the queues to see him are incredible, there are no advance appointmentsexists. I came several times, looked at the line, turned around and left. On
I was lucky for the fourth time - there were only about 10 people in line, I spent an hour and got to
reception We also simply tell the psychiatrist that we need a certificate for weapons (it costs about 400 rubles,
paid at the cash desk in the same dispensary), issued instantly. I did it
The problem with the psychiatrist was that the article under which I was assigned was not written down on my military ID
limited fitness and she issued me a request to the military registration and enlistment office to give me a certificate with the number
articles. I had to go to the military registration and enlistment office and back to her, the second time I skipped the line, saying
that again, I don’t know whether it’s possible this way or not... (I lost 2 days on this, writing about nonsense in
I won’t go to the military registration and enlistment office, I just stood in a 2-hour queue there).
Expert in narcology. Everything is simpler there, but more expensive. We are going to the drug treatment clinic, asking for a certificateweapons, they send us where we need to go, we put 1500 rubles in the cash register, we pee in a jar and after 2 days
we take the result.
And now, with 2 certificates in hand, we go to the general commission. I recommend a paid clinic thereThere are fewer queues and the certificate costs about 400-500 rubles. I completed this commission in 15 minutes.
One doctor took my blood pressure, checked my vision and that’s it. They issued 3 certificates confirming that
that I have no contraindications to owning weapons.
3. Safe.
I won’t write much about choosing a safe; whoever wants one buys one. Let me remind youThere are just certain requirements for a weapon safe. I bought it in a store for 4000 rubles
for 2 barrels, with a certificate of compliance with the requirements (since I didn’t know for sure it would be
check or not, it will later become clear that documents for the safe are not required).
4. Weapon training.
We have at least 2 such institutions in our city, I chose the one where the exam is retakenfree. According to reviews in another establishment, it was necessary to pay 500 rubles for each to the cash register
re-delivery
So, training and exam take place on 1 day, costs 3000 rubles and 2 photos. 3 of us cameperson. First, they read the law on weapons to us for 2 hours, then they took us to the shooting range for an exam. There
Our ready-made certificates were already lying around (2 pieces of paper - about training and about successful completion
exam) and whoever wanted could take it and be free, but I stayed to shoot.
Well, the lion's share of the red tape has been passed, now we submit an application for
obtaining a license. 2 days after submitting the application I received a call from LRO (licensed
permitting department) and invited me to drive up to them to hand over the original documents.
Although reception is carried out only 2 days a week, there is no queue at all, but there is also a printerWe don’t have them either, we give back 2 more photographs and all our hard-earned certificates. There they give us
details for paying the fee of 110 rubles and ask for a certificate from the local police officer at the place where the weapon is stored.
Now I’ll make a small digression about the storage location of weapons, it will be useful to many. Myself
I am registered at my place of permanent residence in the same city in an apartment
parents. In fact, I live in my wife’s apartment, without even a temporary registration,
I’m going to store the weapons at the place where I’m actually staying – in my wife’s apartment. The throw was in
Tom - do I need to apply for temporary registration at the place of actual residence through
Federal Migration Service. But the LRO told me that it was enough that I indicated my place in the application form.
actual residence and where I plan to store the weapon. And an act from the district police officer is required
exactly the area where the weapons are stored.
So, they ask us for a report from the district police officer on storage conditions. And again on public services about
this is not a word, but I’m not going to get into trouble, for this we have a lot of dumb characters,
savoring conflicts and posting them on YouTube. I'm looking for where my local police officer is and going
to him - it’s faster. You can find out where your local police officer is by calling the police department
your area, it is often located there. Arriving at reception hours, they drew up a document for me
without visiting the apartment, we just looked at the photos from the phone of what the safe looks like and where it is located
(I took the photos in advance, anticipating this). We receive the deed absolutely free)
Now we take the act and check for payment of the state duty to the LRO and wait several weeks for a call about
ready-made papers.
Let's calculate the total costs:
psychiatrist – 400 rub.
narcologist – 1500 rub.
medical examination – 500 rub.
training – 3000 rub.
safe – 4000rub
duty – 110 rub.
6 photos 3*4 – 250 rub.TOTAL: 9760 rubles. (collecting all the papers took 2 weeks at a leisurely pace, not counting
waiting for a license from the LRO about 30 days)
- Anonymous
Duties have increased by an order of magnitude! for smooth-bore or rifled 2000. through the government services portal 1400 (discount applies). fee for permitting 500 hazel grouse)
- Anonymous
and I was previously convicted, can I get a permit for a hunting smoothbore weapon?
- Andrey
Tell me, I have been registered in a military unit for more than 5 years, and I live in an apartment. Can I get permission to purchase and store hunting weapons in an apartment?
The mechanism for issuing permits to store and carry hunting, firearms and bladed weapons (ROH) was introduced by Federal Law No. 150-FZ dated December 13, 1996 as a tool for protecting citizens and ensuring law and order in society. The document is necessary for members of hunting organizations, as well as employees of paramilitary and security structures, who, by virtue of their professional activity the use of firearms is necessary.
For attempting to use or transport firearms (cold steel) without the appropriate permits, article 20.8 Code of Administrative Offenses of the Russian Federation provision is made for its confiscation with the imposition of a fine on the offender up to 5 thousand rubles. or placement under arrest up to 15 days.
What does the ROH license cover?
The document is required for the legal operation of several categories of weapons:
- Hunting and other knives that do not fall under the classification of tourist, collectible, sports blades or household appliances
- Sporting rifles with rifled barrels
- Hunting rifles with a smooth, rifled combined (replaceable) barrel
- Pneumatics with muzzle energy up to 25 J
IMPORTANT! When purchasing a knife, ask the seller for an “Information Sheet” (Certificate) of the product indicating its type. The form will help you understand whether you need a permit for the blade, as well as avoid problems with law enforcement when carrying household or decorative knives
Hunters have the right to use the ROH license only during the periods allocated by law for tracking and hunting game. A permit issued for official purposes is valid year-round.
Required documents
To initiate the procedure for obtaining a ROH license, the applicant should have in hand:
- 4 matte photographs 3x4
- 3 copies of passport
- Medical certificates No. 002-O/u, No. 003-O/u
- Conclusions from a narcologist and a psychiatrist about the absence of contraindications for owning weapons
- Reports filled out by the district police officer on the condition of the place and conditions of storage of weapons
- Receipts for payment of state duties
- Hunting ticket
Procedure for obtaining permission
Those who intend to buy and use weapons should obtain a ROH license. To complete the document, you will have to run around to government agencies. The step-by-step execution of the document is shown in the table:
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Stage No. |
Place of appeal |
List of submitted documents |
What you need to get your hands on |
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2 matte photographs 3x4 2 photocopies of passport application for a hunting license |
primary password for registration on the public services portal hunting license |
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Psychoneurological dispensary, Drug dispensary, Clinic |
Standard application for the issuance of certificates for security guards, hunters and employees of the Ministry of Internal Affairs + tests |
HTI results according to form No. 454/u-06 (in special cases) certificate No. 003-О/у certificate No. 002-О/у |
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Gun shop |
Safe storage |
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Gun safety training courses (for initial registration of ROX license) |
2 matte photographs 3x4 certificate No. 002-О/у original and photocopy of passport |
Certificate of completion of courses Knowledge Test Act |
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Local Department of Licensing and Permitting (OLRR) |
receipt of payment of state duty application for the purchase of weapons from the ROH list application for acquisition of LLC Act on checking the conditions of weapons storage by the district police officer certificates and documents collected at previous stages |
Licenses for the purchase of weapons and ammunition for them |
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Gun shop |
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Local OLRR |
application for issuance of ROH application for registration of ROH for LLC |
Weapon registration certificate ROX for LLC ROH for weapons |
IMPORTANT! Scroll training centers accredited to conduct educational activities regarding safe handling of weapons, listed in the online register of Rospotrebnadzor
The law provides for the possibility of online submission of documents to the OLRR (7th paragraph of the table). To exercise this right, the applicant must register on the government services portal. Identifiers account e-mail, SNILS and cell phone numbers are used. The primary password for the resource user is issued by the MFC. After authorizing the entry, you can change it.
The online application procedure includes several steps:
IMPORTANT! Employees of state special forces are required to provide a certificate of assignment of service weapons, and private ones - an RSLA card
The appeal will be considered by the territorial department of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Russian Federation in the order of the general queue. The status of your application can be tracked in personal account user of the public services portal. The processing time for an application is on average 10 days, but no more than 14 days from the date of filing the application.
The applicant must appear at the Ministry of Internal Affairs at the appointed time. The applicant must bring with him original documents submitted electronically, as well as a weapon in a case whose quality characteristics meet the requirements of the law. This is usually the manufacturer's holster, case or box.
Location of basic data on the permit
The license is in the form of a blue laminated card. On the back of the form, the type and number of weapons purchased are recorded. In the center of the upper part of the front side of the document the name of the permit, series and ROC number are indicated.
osy13 03/01/2017 - 11:46
Colleagues, forgive the beginner, but I can’t understand one thing.
I always thought that after purchasing a weapon it needs to be registered within two weeks. There was even such a question on the ticket.
Now I open gosuslugi.ru and read:
The period for issuing a permit should not exceed 14 days from the date of registration of the application. You will be given a receipt for payment of the state duty, which will indicate the necessary details.
Accordingly, it turns out that after purchasing a weapon, I must submit an application through the government services website within a maximum of six months and the LRO must be issued to the ROC within two weeks.
So?
Or do you still need to submit an application through government services within two weeks after purchasing a weapon? And when government services are invited to the LRO, then go there.
Can not understand...
N. Valerich 03/01/2017 - 11:58
osy13In my opinion, WEARING is unnecessary here.
Carrying a weapon before obtaining permission is carried out on the basis of a license for the acquisition of weapons, the validity of which is 6 months from the date of its receipt.
The “green card” with which you have the right to buy a gun is valid for 6 months, after which it is surrendered if the weapon is not purchased.
After purchasing, within two weeks you must PERSONALLY (with a weapon, of course) come to register your gun at the local LRO, and then as it turns out, they will either call you when to come for the gun or set a date.
osy13 03/01/2017 - 12:03
N. ValerichNow, as I understand it, they personally don’t immediately run to the LRO.
After purchasing, within two weeks you must appear in PERSON (with a weapon, of course) to register your gun at the local LRO
Now you need to run to the government services website, and they will invite you to the LRO on the right day.
I just don't understand. Two weeks - is this before submitting an application to government services or before appearing at the LRO?
Year 01.03.2017 - 12:15
two weeks from the date of purchase to register the weapon with the LRO. and then submit your application however you want, either through government services or in person.
osy13 03/01/2017 - 12:17
Those. two weeks before submitting an application to government services?
Year 01.03.2017 - 12:20
later - administrative protocol
Green 03/01/2017 - 12:26
Clause 52 PP 814 - subject to registration within two weeks. The date for submitting the application through the state authorities within two weeks is quite satisfactory. The phrase that confused you should be written without a comma.
Therefore, you can carry under a license for 14 days before submitting the application (deadline) and 14 days until the permit is ready. Those. less than a month. Further according to permission.
Year 01.03.2017 - 12:29
and don’t throw away your license, it will come in handy
Rive 03/01/2017 - 14:15
If you lose your permit, a duplicate license will help you avoid trouble.
gamych 03/01/2017 - 14:35
GreenIn my opinion, there is an error in your reasoning. If you mention a validity period of 6 months, then you are clearly talking about a license to purchase firearms. You can use it to transport and store weapons (Article 77, paragraph 1 of PP-814), but not to carry them (Article 62, paragraph 1 of PP-814). You can carry gas weapons with a purchase license (Article 13, paragraph 3 of the Federal Law on Law). It also has a different validity period - 5 years.
Carrying before obtaining permission is under license. The license validity period (for purchase) is 6 months.
Green 03/01/2017 - 15:19
We are discussing one specific proposal from the government.
Not by me, the original data mentioned 6 months. Therefore, we are not discussing gas.
P.62. Carrying and using weapons is carried out on the basis of licenses or permits for storage and carrying issued by internal affairs bodies...
d) citizens of the Russian Federation - during hunting, sporting events, training and shooting exercises, as well as for self-defense purposes;
License mentioned.
P.77, of course, transportation is allowed.
But storage according to clause 54 is only with permits.
All this together at state meetings was called in one word - wearing. So that they don’t delve into it in vain and get confused.
gamych 03/01/2017 - 16:27
Colleague Green, did I understand you correctly that you think that having a duplicate license for the acquisition of firearms with a mark of acquisition allows you to carry and use the purchased weapon until you obtain permission to store and carry it?
Green 03/01/2017 - 16:43
I quote the NPA.
I will not advise anyone to go hunting with a duplicate license, because... wait two weeks before receiving permission - and no one will have any questions. Although, as far as I remember, the owner shot the SKS he bought at the shooting range and returned it to the store (before registering it with the OLRR) as unusable. Those. used.
gamych 03/01/2017 - 16:53
GreenWe all quote legal acts here. But we quote for a reason, but in order to confirm our thought, to substantiate our opinion. Otherwise, quoting loses its meaning.
I quote the NPA.
So I’m trying to understand exactly what idea of yours you wanted to confirm by quoting, what exactly your opinion to substantiate? In this regard, it would not be difficult for you to answer my question in the formulation in which I asked it - did I understand you correctly? If not, then these are your phrases
Green
Carrying before obtaining permission is under license.
...
You can carry a license for 14 days before submitting the application (deadline) and 14 days until the permit is ready
what did they mean?
Green 03/01/2017 - 17:00
Okay, let me explain.
The first message contained a phrase from the government.
“Carrying a weapon before obtaining permission is carried out on the basis of a license for the acquisition of weapons, the validity of which is 6 months from the date of its receipt.”
I divided it into two self-sufficient and non-overlapping ones.
"Wearing before obtaining permission is subject to a license. The validity period of the license (for purchase) is 6 months." Now it’s clear where it came from?
Green 03/01/2017 - 17:05
Let me also explain, the only document for a weapon in the period before filing for registration (maximum 14 days) and before issuing a permit (plus another 14 days according to the regulations) is a license, the third part of which remains with the owner. This is the maximum possible period, but not the 6 months that TS asked about.
gamych 03/01/2017 - 17:10
GreenThis is understandable 😊
Now it’s clear where it came from?
What is not clear is what is your answer to the question I asked. After all, the phrase
Greenalready belongs to you, this is not a free quotation of State Services from the words of the TS.
Therefore, you can carry under a license for 14 days before submitting the application (deadline) and 14 days until the permit is ready.
Is it really difficult to give a definite answer - “Yes, I think so” or “No, I don’t think so, but I think like this -...”?
gamych 03/01/2017 - 17:11
GreenWithout a doubt. But does this duplicate allow the carrying and use of weapons?
the only document for a weapon in the period before filing for registration (maximum 14 days) and before issuing a permit (plus another 14 days according to the regulations) is a license, the third part of which remains with the owner
N. Valerich 03/01/2017 - 17:25
But does this duplicate allow the carrying and use of weapons?
USE - how is it?
It is not forbidden to transport green stuff along the spine, well, transport it to the shooting range or shooting range, the hunt has already closed anyway.
gamych 03/01/2017 - 17:37
N. ValerichNo. Carrying and transporting are not the same thing. It's all about wearing.
WEARING probably means TRANSPORTATION.
Green 03/01/2017 - 18:31
If only yes or no - yes, I think that carrying and use is permitted in accordance with the above paragraph of PP 814. At the same time, I repeat, I will not advise anyone to go hunting, in the hunting rules it is the license that is not specified as a document for presentation, only a permit for storage and wearing. There remains use at shooting sites and for self-defense purposes (i.e. p.62 g) excluding hunting)
MOA 03/01/2017 - 20:00
GreenFrom the moment of purchasing a weapon under a license of the LGa, LN series until the moment of registration with obtaining a storage permit, permission to store and carry, the weapon is in transportation mode, even if it is at that moment in the owner’s safe.
Therefore, you can carry under a license for 14 days before submitting the application (deadline) and 14 days until the permit is ready. Those. less than a month. Further according to permission.
On the basis of a duplicate license for the acquisition of weapons, the storage, carrying, use of weapons is not permitted... PP814.
GreenWhen registering a weapon in a weapons store, the owner is issued a duplicate license of the LGa, LN series, for transportation and registration in the LRR department at the citizen’s place of residence. two duplicates of the license for the acquisition of weapons of the LGa, LNa series.... however, only the license for the acquisition and storage with the right to carry the LOA series does not provide for tear-off duplicates; all information from the moment of acquisition and registration at the place of residence is entered on the back side of the license.
- license, the third part which remains with the owner.
I am sure that you know this... I wrote a topic for readers to clarify their understanding of the issue.
Green 03/01/2017 - 20:20
On the basis of a duplicate license for the acquisition of weapons, the storage, carrying, use of weapons is not permitted... PP814.Storage is not permitted, this was discussed above. The rest is “not allowed” with references to paragraphs of PP 814, please.
MOA 03/01/2017 - 20:41
GreenP.62 d) Ch. XII. Carrying and using weapons
The rest is “not allowed” with references to paragraphs of PP 814, please.
gamych 03/01/2017 - 20:53
GreenGot you 😊
If only yes or no - yes, I think that wearing and using it is permitted in accordance with the above paragraph of PP 814.
Green 03/01/2017 - 20:58
Then quote it and look for the word "license".
svarog71 03/01/2017 - 22:17
I bought the gun on February 22. The license expires tomorrow-March 2. Registration is given 14 days. That is, the last day for filing an application for a permit to store and carry in public services is March 7? Or are registration and obtaining a permit different procedures? And since the validity period has expired licenses for the purchase of weapons on March 2, have I already been placed under administration?
vjyfijyjr1971 03/01/2017 - 22:29
within 14 days from the date of purchase of the gun.
Green 03/02/2017 - 06:17
svarog71
I bought the gun on February 22. The license expires tomorrow-March 2. Registration is given 14 days. That is, the last day for filing an application for a permit to store and carry in public services is March 7? Or are registration and obtaining a permit different procedures? And since the validity period has expired licenses for the purchase of weapons on March 2, have I already been placed under administration?
Only one question arises.
Why not submit an application from government services using the current number now, if the gun has already been purchased, what is holding you back? The date of application is the date of fulfillment of the obligation to register within 14 days.
An application is submitted for permission to store and carry (or storage, self-defense). The procedure for issuing a permit begins on the same date.
svarog71 03/02/2017 - 11:24
The site works disgustingly. And you can’t wait for operators. I’ll try again today
Green 03/02/2017 - 11:36
No operators needed. Send an application with a minimum of data using the form
https://www.gosuslugi.ru/106396/2
This is for ROH, storage and carrying.
If something is buggy or not attached from the dock, then present it at the reception. The main thing is to fill out the required fields and receive a notification that your application has been accepted.
svarog71 03/02/2017 - 16:18
I bought the gun in Moscow. Everything was completed in 2 hours. Having experience in processing various papers with us, I would never have believed it. It’s the same with government services. This is not Moscow, local documents are not loaded on the site. Together with the operator, everything works fine
Green 03/02/2017 - 17:29
It seems there was a moment when the OLRR was not on the list at the state offices, an application was sent to a higher office, and they forwarded it according to their jurisdiction to the required department.
svarog71 03/02/2017 - 18:45
Everything worked out. Apparently they are working on improving the site! It was worse six months ago
Galichkin 11.09.2017 - 09:28
Tell me, 14 days after purchase are given to submit an application or receive an ROH?
The situation is as follows: the next day after purchasing the gun, I submitted an application for permission through government services, the execution period is 14 days. But I'm leaving on vacation in 7 days. It turns out that I can pick up the finished ROX 21 days after purchase.
Will I face a fine for not receiving the ROC within 14 days?
vlad_vv 09.11.2017 - 17:32
Carrying before obtaining permission is under license.A license is simply not issued, it always relates to some action, and this is not necessarily an acquisition. By your logic, if we mean any license, a collecting license also allows carrying. In paragraph 62 of PP814, to which you refer, it is written “licenses or permits for storage and carrying.” That is, there must be a license for storage and carrying. We are apparently talking about gas weapons. I believe that the type of license is implied from the context (as in clause 62), or is clearly indicated in conjunction with this word, as in clause 77
Citizens of the Russian Federation transport weapons across the territory of the Russian Federation in quantities of no more than 5 units and cartridges of no more than 1000 pieces on the basis of permits from internal affairs bodies for storage, storage and carrying, storage and use, for import into Russian Federation relevant types, types and models of weapons or licenses for their acquisition, collecting or exhibiting weapons.As follows from the quotation, a license to purchase weapons is at the same time an indefinite permission to transport them.
Dewshman 09.12.2017 - 13:26
Galichkin
Tell me, 14 days after purchase are given to submit an application, or receive a ROC? The situation is as follows, the next day after purchasing the gun, I submitted an application for permission through government services, the deadline is 14 days. But I'm leaving on vacation in 7 days. It turns out that I can pick up the finished ROX 21 days after purchase. Will I face a fine for not receiving the ROC within 14 days?
You are given 14 days to submit your application from the date of purchase.
Guardsmen are given 14 days from receipt of the application to complete the registration certificate.
You can submit an application on the 13th day from the purchase, and the guards will give you a ROC 14 days later on the 27th day from the purchase. And everything is legal.
It is important for you to submit your application in time and you are responsible for this, but to receive a ready-made ROC in your hands - if you don’t roam around with a gun to your advantage, then no one will come to you personally. Go get some ROH when you get back from vacation.
egopersh 09.17.2017 - 23:06
Thank you.. the right topic.. I myself struggled with the conceptual apparatus... now everything is on the shelves.
kerudg83 08/13/2018 - 20:08
Good day!
I am on a business trip and will not have time in 14 days to arrive at the LRO at my place of registration to register the purchased weapon. I’ve already scheduled a copy for purchase, but I’m afraid I might not have time - the weapons are imported and the price is rising.
Are there any legal options to resolve this issue?
I myself see several of them, but with some unclear moments:
1. Put the gun into reserve by paying part of the cost, or to be completely sure that the seller will not change the price due to rising exchange rates, make a 100% payment.
2. Submit an application through State Services. Thus, fulfilling your obligation to register the purchased weapon, and pick up the ROX upon arrival at the place of registration, transporting the purchased gun under a license.
3. After acquisition, hand over the precious barrel to the LRO at your temporary place of stay before departure (somewhere in the law or PP I came across a similar opportunity, but as far as I remember, it was about registered weapons).
We don’t buy weapons every day and the subtleties fly out of our heads. Comrades, give me some advice!
Green 08/13/2018 - 21:04
P.1 is also practiced, but I have not used it. Let the practitioners clarify.
According to point 3, you can deposit it (only at the Internal Affairs Directorate, not the OLRR), but the deadline for registration after purchase will be ticking. Not the best the best option, because They don’t like to take it for storage anywhere. You can clarify the details on the spot.
kerudg83 08/14/2018 - 06:44
GreenThat is, you came with a gun for inspection within 14 days of purchase and no sanctions were applied to you and before that the same gun was not presented for inspection?
I did according to point 2, but I only managed to put it in my safe immediately after the purchase, before leaving. And upon his return, he came to receive the ROC and for an examination.
hunter741 08/14/2018 - 09:57
kerudg83What sanctions could there be if the owner submitted the application on time, within 14 days from the date of purchase of the weapon?
That is, you came with a gun for inspection within 14 days of purchase and no sanctions were applied to you and before that the same gun was not presented for inspection?
None. Our country is large, the journey can take much more than 14 days - anything can happen. The time period during which weapons can be transported under a purchase license has not been established by any legal acts.
Just as there couldn’t have been any sanctions (some of them were actually sanctioned as administrators) at a time when buying weapons through special communications was common. There, the weapon was often received by the owner much later than the 14-day period. And there were no normal government services then.
The only thing I would do additionally in such a situation is to make a printout of government services after paying the state duty. To facilitate explanations during possible checks.
Green 08/14/2018 - 11:03
and no sanctions were applied to youNo
kerudg83 08/14/2018 - 13:43
Everything is clearly comrades! That’s right, point 2. I called the OLRR, they only asked me to send a photo of the license spine after the store’s marks and check the license plate itself for compliance, and then report the purchase and submit an application through the State Administration!!!
SUPER!
hunter741 08/14/2018 - 14:02
kerudg83surprisingly adequate response from LRO
I called OLR, they only asked me to send a photo of the license stub after the store’s marks and check the numbers themselves for compliance, and inform me about the purchase and submission of an application through the State Administration!!!
SUPER!
Year 08/14/2018 - 21:52
I made a printout of government services after paying the state fee. To facilitate explanations during possible checkssoon this won’t be necessary either, a couple of months ago I applied for a license, the accounting department itself made a note about a 30% discount when making a payment, about which the inspector had information in the database (in posted payments), a printed payment from government services was not required.
hunter741 08/15/2018 - 10:40
YearThat's not exactly what I meant.
soon this won’t be necessary either, a couple of months ago I applied for a license, the accounting department itself made a note about a 30% discount when making a payment, about which the inspector had information in the database (in posted payments), a printed payment from government services was not required.
And the fact that with a possible check of documents and weapons of the joint venture along the route of the owner from the place of purchase to the place of residence (outside the time of 14 days from the date of purchase) it will not hurt to have at least some confirmation that the application for registration of the weapon was submitted in a timely manner.
Well, poke the inspector in the nose PP 814 Art. 77, Part 1
I have the same situation described and today it was resolved. In short: after the technical work, the normal functionality of government services for the guardsmen has still not been restored. I had to call Kotelniki today (the deadline was already running out) and ask them to send a receipt by email and then pay for it there at the GU with a 30% discount, but by entering the UIN from the receipt.
Green 12/31/2018 - 09:19
I had to call Kotelniki today (the deadline was already running out) and ask them to send a receipt by email and then pay for it there at the GU with a 30% discount, but by entering the UIN from the receipt.Did you pay and calm down? And the registration of the application with the department occurs after receiving information about payment. And this information is not clearly visible in the GIS GMP in Kotelniki; a couple of days ago I approached them with a similar question. Therefore, send back a copy of the receipt with a note about payment or UIP (payment) to the email from which the receipt came. In general, this is not your responsibility, but if deadlines are running out, it’s better to play it safe, and there will be fewer showdowns with servicemen later.
Al70 01/08/2019 - 17:15
Friends, please tell me this is the situation.
My father has a rifle permit, he doesn’t want to renew the permit, it expires in a month. I want to re-register it for myself. I have enough smooth experience, I have 2 smooth ones at the moment. Question: Do I now need to undergo a medical examination to get a pink one? I heard an opinion that under the current regulations, there is no need to go through a medical examination, but you only need a photo, a fee and an application through government services.
I looked around the forum briefly, if I missed it, I apologize for the button accordion. Please explain, if with references to the law, it’s generally great. Thank you in advance for your response.
Al70 01/08/2019 - 18:01
Thank you! I will study and be fully armed!
eugenester 08/18/2019 - 22:06
My question is almost the same as that of the topicstarter - I also always thought that after purchasing a weapon it needs to be registered within 2 weeks, but then I realized that I don’t understand anything. :-(
Description old procedure It didn’t raise any questions for me - you come with a receipt from the LG and a gun to the LRO, write an application for the issuance of a RKh and wait for the coveted document.
But a happy future has arrived and I no longer understand - how do State Services and 2 weeks to register a purchased gun relate? If I bought a gun and on the same day created an application for public services, which, according to the regulations, also takes 2 weeks to process, then it turns out that I can automatically be found to have failed to comply with the registration deadlines?
Let’s say I bought a gun on Saturday, the application from government services was accepted on Monday, and the invitation to the LRO arrived on the evening of Friday of the next (second) week. If I come there with documents and a gun when they are working - on Tuesday for 3 weeks, then it turns out that all the deadlines on my part will have already been missed and I will have problems. Whereas LRO met the two-week time limit on its part.
Or I misunderstand the process of registering a purchased weapon in the LRO - is registering a weapon in the LRO and submitting an application for a RHO two different procedures (?) - I must first come to the LRO for the first time and register the purchased gun within 2 weeks. After that, apply from home for ROH using public services and wait another 2 weeks before receiving the required document, and then come for him to the LRO a second time?
achimd 01/24/2019 - 10:51
Comrades, the situation.
Question: can I purchase and obtain a storage permit in a new city without traveling to Tyumen?
Semyon-19_74 01/24/2019 - 21:07
achimd
Comrades, the situation.
The acquisition license was obtained in Tyumen.
I went to another city to live, registered and now decided to buy myself a gun.
Question: can I purchase and obtain a storage permit in a new city without traveling to Tyumen?
Why post the same question everywhere?
The answer is here:
AlecR 08.18.2019 - 22:44
eugenesterWhy such difficulties? First, from home, you submit an application for ROC at the state office, pay the fee there (thus receiving a 30% discount), and then go to the LRO (once!) to get the completed piece of paper.
After that, from home, apply for RHO through government services and wait another 2 weeks until you receive the required document, and then come to the LRO for a second time?
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Now the next deadline for renewing my ROC permit has come up. I would like to note right away that the situation described is happening in Moscow, since I am registered in the capital of our Motherland. To simplify communication with officials and fight corruption, Belokamennaya operates a “State Services” portal and even has a mobile application.
Using it, I went to the required section and read the necessary information.
The application provides a list of documents that can be immediately photographed in the program and sent to the Russian National Guard.
All documents were available, except for the “f-046” certificate indicated in the list.
Okay, I’ll go get a certificate, I decided, and went to the local clinic. Walking into the doctor’s office, I asked for a referral to undergo a medical examination.
To which the doctor informed me that this form of certificate for obtaining or re-registration of weapons has been abolished and instead there are now two forms “002 -O/u” and “003 -O/u”.
She referred to the order of the Ministry of Health dated June 30, 2016 No. 441-n and let me read it.
"Fine! Give me a referral, I’ll start seeing doctors,” I kindly asked the doctor.
“Alas, we cannot issue you these certificates; we do not have a license to issue them.
You need to go to a drug treatment clinic, get a certificate from them that you are not registered with them, and take a drug test there. Then visit a psychoneurological clinic and get a certificate from them that you are not registered.”
“And then can I go to the Russian Guard?”
“No, with these certificates you need to go to a private medical center and receive the already coveted forms “002” and “003”!”
That is, the local public clinic refused me. Having called the nearest medical center, I found out that the cost of each certificate is 1,100 rubles.
Wanting not to overpay for services, I dialed the hotline number of the Ministry of Health and asked where I could get these certificates on a budget basis. To which I received the answer that NOWHERE.
The operator explained that these forms are amateur and insurance compulsory medical insurance policy does not cover their costs. That is, these certificates in Moscow can only be obtained on a paid basis.
Having visited a drug treatment clinic, I successfully passed a test for the absence of ten narcotic compounds, costing 1,100 rubles, and an “examination” by a doctor, and in reality, checking the absence of my data in the database costing 700 rubles.
After that I went to a mental hospital. There was the same “punching through the database.” Three minutes with a doctor cost 950 rubles.
All the necessary statements were in hand, and now the private medical center issued the coveted forms “002” and “003” based on three previously received certificates.
An examination at a private medical center was reduced to measuring blood pressure. The forms were issued, costing 1,100 rubles each.
Next I went to the licensing and permitting system. Having provided all the documents in full, I received a receipt for payment of the state fee in the amount of 500 rubles (the amount increased from October 1, 2017), paid, waited 10 working days and received a new ROC form.
Taking into account the cost of photographs, payment for transport and commissions for making payments, the amount turned out to be about 6 thousand rubles per weapon. Is it a lot or a little? It’s noticeable for me personally, and what can we say about retired hunters...
And maybe it’s nothing, but these innovations, in essence, have not changed anything. Previously, requests to dispensaries were sent by the police themselves, which is quite logical. There was no doctor's examination.
In reality, the only increase for everyone was the drug test. And everything else is seen as just another, as always, relatively honest way of taking money from citizens.